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On
1/15/2008
Adam Andrzejewski
said:
If Illinois is beaten by 16 states and it's a deadheat with 6 other states, then Illinois is very close to the middle of the pack on income. In any event, by your analysis or mine, Illinois certainly is not a "rich" state. And the effects are real- we are 45th in job creation over the last 3,5, and 10 years. Think of the economic stimulus that Illinois would receive with a "fair" amount of our federal taxes back in the state! New York did it and so can we...
On
1/15/2008
Clay
said:
Adam,
If Illinois ranks "only" 16th (out of FIFTY states), then, it's in the top third of median income in the U.S..
Therefore, to answer your question again, the reason nobody is talking about it is due to party ideology. Democrats will not reduce taxes on those with higher incomes - perceived or real.
On
1/14/2008
Adam Andrzejewski
said:
Dear Clay:
Your post seems to be what most folks believe about tax policy in Washington DC. However, Census Bureau stats do not back this up. As one example, Illinois only ranks 16th in median income per household plus 6 more states are statistically equal to Illinois household income. Therefore, 22 states in America either beat or are equal to Illinois. We are not a "rich" state. We are ranked 45th in the return of our federal tax dollars. Now, why isn't anyone in Illinois government talking about this??
On
1/14/2008
Clay
said:
Adam,
The reason Obama and Durbin don't say anything is because it would be against Democrat idealogy. It cuts taxes to the richest states and increases the burden to the poor.
More income = more taxes. The states with the highest return are those that pay the least, right? and vice versa. That's simply the way taxation works.
It's like saying "I make $100k and pay $30k in taxes. I have problems with my roof, so, I'll just keep half of it for repairs and those poorer folks will just have to find money elsewhere. I got problems of my own!"
On
1/14/2008
Adam Andrzejewski
said:
Dear Jay: The other day I was visiting Dr. John Howard in Rockford, IL. Dr. Howard holds large binders of his handwritten correspondence with two Presidents. He told me that the best hoped outcomes in politics are making “dents”. Although I do believe that transformational change can be accomplished, his wisdom stands the test of time.
Within that construct- I wrote this editorial. The purpose of the editorial is to describe the scope of the problem in real terms that Illinois families can appreciate! It sounds like you received that message loud and clear. Yes, your family’s share of the Illinois donor tax problem is $9000!
Since our donor status completely unfair to Illinois- ranking us 45th in the country- we need to start the process of evening up the situation. Just a 10% improvement in our relationship with the feds would bring $2.4 billion back to Illinois! And it is our money.
A real question for consideration is… Sen. Durbin is the 2nd highest ranking Democrat in the Senate and Sen. Obama is supposed to be a superstar, why aren’t they representing the interests of Illinois? In the 1990’s, New York faced the same tax donor situation. Sen. Moynihan made the issue public and personal for New Yorkers and improved the problem- over the course of time for New York.
Why isn’t anyone in Illinois government talking about this?
On
1/14/2008
Jay Pauer
said:
So we want to be more like Kentucky? Queue the banjos.
I understand the problem as you present it, but I'm not sure I understand the potential solution. Are you arguing that Illinoisans should pay lower federal taxes or that Washington should cut us a bigger check? And whatever the answer, who then bears the burden of the depletion of the $24B (not Illinoisans, I get that - but can we then stick it to Kentucky? As you can see, I have real disdain for Kentucky...)?
I sure could use an extra $7,200 right now...actual I've got a household of five, so my take would be $9,000k right? I just want to know how I'm going to get it, and what's NOT going to get funded in order that I might revel in my fare share?
Ever the Pessimist,
Jay
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